JotCast | PHR Live Chat: 8/21/24

PHR Live Chat: 8/21/24

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Josh Erickson

2:00

Hi everyone! Looks like a few things in the queue already. Let's get started.

biker4509

2:00

How does the salary retention work if one team buys out a player? Is the years of retention used doubled?

Josh Erickson

2:00

That's correct. If a team buys out a player involved in a retained salary transaction, the buyout cost is split between the two teams at the same ratio as the salary would have been had the contract not been bought out.

2:02

Say a team buys out a player with one year left on his deal at $6MM, but he was acquired at 50% retention. The total buyout penalty for that would be two years at $2MM each, so each team would get hit with a $1MM penalty for the next two seasons.

mike301

2:02

Would demko and a 1st be enough to get saros? Or what's a realistic price from the canucks?

Josh Erickson

2:03

Demko is coming off a better season than Saros and has a more desirable contract. I don't think those talks are something either side would be considering, but they were, it would be Nashville attaching assets to Saros to get Demko, not the other way around.

2:04

I imagine Vancouver is only looking at a minor/short-term move to help buoy Silovs if Demko is still out to start the campaign. Don't think they're considering anything major in that realm.

Cbj4life

2:05

We did great on the laine trade right ??? We didn’t retain any money

Josh Erickson

2:06

In that sense, yeah. I don't think the Blue Jackets will miss that draft pick too much, and Harris is a legitimately useful player.

I still think Laine is massively undervalued league-wide, but it's not like Waddell could have done anything about that. Given what offers seemed to be out there, I think both sides should be happy with how this swap turned out.

Rob

2:06

What you think pens need to do next ?

Josh Erickson

2:07

Pittsburgh has a very solid base. Their goaltending, especially Jarry, gets over-hated. He's solid. I like the depth adds they made on defense and Graves should be expected to get his feet back under him this season.

2:09

Stop me if you've heard this before, but they just don't have enough fire power on the wings. Drew O'Connor is a useful depth piece but not a serious top-six option in my eyes. They only have two bonafide top-six options in Bunting and Rust, maybe three if Rakell can rebound. But he's aging, injured, and has a long history of inconsistency.

It'll be the lack of scoring that kills them in the end, I think. What a weird thing to say about that team. But you're asking too much of Crosby and of Malkin, especially.

2:10

I don't like the Glass or Hayes pickups for the money they're making.

2:11

So for this year, I'm not sure how they get out of that hole. Not a ton of money will be freed up next summer, either.

Rob

2:11

Why has sid Crosby did not sign still ?

Josh Erickson

2:11

I know as much as everybody else knows, which is that nobody has any idea :D

Darrell73

2:14

Do you think the oilers did the right thing in not matching the blues offer sheet and do you like the additions of podkolzin and emberson as possible replacements

Josh Erickson

2:14

Absolutely on both fronts. I get the hand-wringing about not matching Holloway for a decent price, but matching Broberg never would have made any sense. I know defenders take a while to develop, but time was running out with him. Holloway's shown more promise in his NHL time.

2:16

The reality is that Podkolzin can provide what Holloway did in limited minutes last year for a decent price. Emberson is arguably an upgrade over Ceci for a massively discounted price. The only real negative I see for the Oilers coming out of this situation is the asset management part of it. That's obviously not the compensation you want for a pair of former first-rounders. But even if they left themselves too vulnerable to an offer sheet in the first place, I think they've done a good job responding to it.

DW30

2:16

What are your thoughts on Nick Robertson ? Do you think Toronto honors his trade request and do you think the Islanders would be a good fit …. If they can clear some salary .

Josh Erickson

2:17

Yes and yes, but the caveat you bring up is a major one. Money aside, I think he's a better short-term and long-term option than Wahlstrom. Ideal replacement there, and he'd also be a really good insurance policy for the top nine in case Tsyplakov doesn't pan out, which I think is likely.

2:18

You can try a Tsyplakov-Nelson-Palmieri line to see how it goes, but if that doesn't work, a Robertson-Nelson-Palmieri unit would be really intriguing.

2:20

But I think Robertson is probably looking at a two-year deal around $1.5MM per. Yet the Isles don't even have room to roster Tsyplakov at the beginning of the year unless they waive two of Fasching, MacLean, Holmstrom, and Wahlstrom.

Sorry, they could send Wahlstrom down and recall Tsyplakov one-for-one. But my point stands, they're in a pinch.

Matty Mammoth

2:20

Thoughts on Beniers' mammoth new contract? I was surprised to see him signed long term but as a Kraken fan am glad for the cost certainty for the next seven years, especially as the cap goes up and Beniers theoretically will improve further as he enters his prime.

Josh Erickson

2:21

This was the outcome I expected, although I thought the delay maybe meant Francis was able to work Beniers' camp down to something in the high $6MM range. But it always seemed like both sides were intent on a long-term commitment.

2:22

I'm not surprised about a seven-year term compared to eight, either. It makes him a UFA when he's 28. That's massive earning potential if he does end up hitting as a 1C, which is certainly debatable.

2:23

But I think for his projection, it's fair value. I think he tops out as an 18-19 minutes-per-game 2C who can toss up 55-65 points with exemplary defensive play. Teams shell out for those kinds of players.

I think when you compare it to guys like Compher and Copp getting $5MM AAV+ deals on the open market, this is a good price, especially for a player who does still have some potential offensive upside beyond that.

2:23

Now that Beniers has been signed, do you see someone like Tanev getting dealt to give the Kraken some additional breathing room under the cap or do you think they'll just roll with a 21-man roster?

Josh Erickson

2:25

I do. A $3.5MM cap hit for a forward as offensively limited as Tanev is something a team with playoff intentions can't stomach if they're spending to the cap. It's a tough pill to swallow, though. He's a great presence. There will be trade interest if they do shop him, potentially enough to get out of the last year of his deal without any retention on Seattle's part.

Ask

2:27

Where do you think Askarov lands (if not Nashville), and what should the Predators be looking in return for him?

Josh Erickson

2:28

A first-round pick should do it straight up depending on the team. If it's a contender making the move, I imagine it'll take another asset to pry him away to account for the Preds receiving a lower pick.

2:30

There will be a bidding war here, for sure. San Jose jumps out immediately, and it's where I'd put my money. Their forward pool is almost completely reloaded already, and the Dickinson pickup has filled a huge need for them. But they lack goalie prospects with a good chance at an NHL future.

LGD

2:30

Where do you rank Hischier on your list of top overall centers? Thanks!

Josh Erickson

2:35

Top 20, for sure. The way he's popped offensively the past few years is unreal.

The Accountant

2:35

If Johansen and the Flyers reach a financial settlement for his contract termination, would part of the settlement amount be on the Predators' books as well as the Flyers' since Nashville retained salary on him, or would it strictly affect Philadelphia's cap sheet?

Josh Erickson

2:36

Honestly, I have no clue. There's no precedent for it and it's not something that's clearly laid out in the CBA. My educated guess is that they'd split the settlement 50/50, but it may fall all on the Flyers too.

RFAs

2:36

Why is Lucas Raymond and Mortiz Seider taking forever to sign their extensions? Detroit has $17 million in cap space.

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