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Notre Dame men's basketball chat - January 2023

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Thomas Noie

5:21

And with that, I feel like Forrest Gump when he finally stops running. Don't have the beard or the bad hair, but think we've reached the end of the line. Hope this was therapeutic for everyone. Got it out of your systems and we can move forward, wherever this leads. We'll circle back around maybe after a hiring has been made. Until then, there's nothing really to discuss/dissect. More bad basketball. More short rotations. More of the same. Take care everyone and thanks for participating in the longest chat in South Bend Tribune history. Unofficially.

5:12

Do you like Purcell Pavilion hot dogs, bad basketball and short rotations? You're hired!

Mike from SDiego

5:11

Do you need an intern?

Thomas Noie

5:06

Yeah, not touching that. Let it stand on its own.

Wadelite

5:06

No comment on the 3 for 3?

Thomas Noie

5:06

Tom: Better late to the party than never. Glad to have you aboard. Right on all accounts, except the coaching wish list. Fans of their favorite basketball programs tend to have higher opinions of who should take that job when it opens. The aim there might be a little high. We'll see.

Tom from Amber, PA

5:04

Tom, I just joined the chat so my comments may have already been made. ND needs to make a bigger commitment to basketball. They should pursue a quality coach and offer him a HUGE contract. They need someone like Gonzaga's coach, Jay Wright, or Virginia's Bennett. They also need to upgrade staff and facilities. The recruiting budget needs increasing, and undergraduate transfers need to be welcomed. If they want to pack the stands and increase revenue, they need to have a consistent winner like Muffet McGraw did with the woman's program. I've reached the conclusion that the administration doesn't care.

Thomas Noie

5:04

When the expectation level from me for you is high, it's met with a simple nod. Well done young man!

Wadelite

5:04

If Shrewsberry is determined to be the best fit, I will be 100% in his corner and supportive. With that said, I am a bit concerned about a reference that Swarbrick wants a 3 for 3 scenario with fb and bb x 2. Great work today, but no kudos for me using "woof" earlier?

Thomas Noie

5:04

That sounds awesome.

Craig in NJ

5:03

The floor was about 2 feet above the dirt floor; it held maybe 3,500; mostly students; one end was open to the rest of the field house. it could rock.

Thomas Noie

5:02

Rick: They told me that there would be no math in this job. Here's the breakdown - with everyone who COULD return regardless of how remote the chances plus the three incoming recruits, Notre Dame was at 10 players for 2023-24. No more Dunlap makes that nine. Cormac Ryan decides time to fly, that leaves them with eight

Rick in Manhasset

5:00

what is the over and under for current roster players eligible next year coming back? The commits are a somewhat different category.

Thomas Noie

4:58

With dirt along the baselines/sidelines...wish I could've seen a game there. Sounds like it was a wild ride.

Craig in NJ

4:58

Well, I go back to Johnny Dee coaching in the old field house.

Thomas Noie

4:56

Absolutely it's a football school...no Subway Alums clamoring for tickets on Tobacco Road.

Craig in NJ

4:56

SBT probably has inferential proof that ND is a football school. Number of out of state accounts on its website during football season and for the rest of the year.

Thomas Noie

4:54

Drop and give me 20 pushups my man!

Craig in NJ

4:54

I think I missed the first 1 1/2 hours.

Thomas Noie

4:53

We've lapped the eight-hour mark. Show of hands for those who have been here the entire time....anyone? See...Notre Dame's a football school.

4:52

Don't agree. Post had 14 rebounds against Notre Dame. Nate Laszewski's career high for rebounds? Sixteen.

Wadelite

4:50

If Post and Corhen were at ND they probably would be just shooting treys with an allergy to the paint. Is it that difficult to find or develop a big that can play like Geben did as a senior? Oh wait, it might help to have had an actual big man coach on this year's staff.

Thomas Noie

4:50

Meanwhile, our guy Terry still crafting his why I would go to Notre Dame if I had a chance to go to (name your blueblood) essay...

4:49

Also has a lot to do with who's running the practice. Don't have any first-hand knowledge, but a Tom Izzo practice just might be a bit more demanding from an effort standpoint than a Brey practice. One program competes, another doesn't overanalyze. Guess which is which...

Wadelite

4:48

At MSU, Jaxson Kohler was a 2022 high school player with a ranking not that much different than Campbell's. The other frosh big Cooper was not even a top 500 player. IIRC he was on the img b team or practice team. He actually has them playing in non garbage timevgame situations. They must practice well as freshmen.

Thomas Noie

4:48

It's not about playing only seven guys, if it's the right seven. These haven't been the right seven, and not just because they don't defend or make shots. The chemistry that we were led to believe was so right and so pure hasn't been.

Rick in Manhasset

4:47

Per the short rotation, the majority of coaches today seem to be able to rotate eight to ten players. It is practically College Coaching 101. It is hands-on and situational coaching. Brey has seemed incapable of the mixing and juggling and adjusting more than philosophically disinterested.

Thomas Noie

4:47

Preach!

The Jet from Evansville

4:46

I totally agree with you about “We should only have to worry about where we are going. We should not have to worry about if”.

Thomas Noie

4:46

Craig: Nope. He was done February 1. Come back? Academically that was going to be an issue. Guys make up their minds that they've done enough, there's no stopping them. That train's pulled out of the station. That was the case with Wesley. It was right around this time when he took over the game at Louisville. Afterward, the thinking was, he's gone. No way he's coming back.

Craig in NJ

4:44

I think Coach Ivey may have told her son that so he stayed at Purdue for another year. Someone should have told Blake that last year. Stay at ND for another year and work on your outside shot, ball handling and finishing after you get to the rim.

Thomas Noie

4:44

Craig: In what universe do families of five-star prospects do THAT? They're busy planning for their gifted son to get to the league to start their clocks and get to that second contract. Five-stars have rarely been told at any point in their careers that they have holes in their games. Have you seen some of the first-round draft picks? The league drafts strictly on potential. Who's really ready to be a pro? Too few, but that doesn't stop them from trying.

Craig in NJ

4:43

To answer the question you asked, Tom, your family needs to be telling you that not all 5 star prospects are can’t miss NBA ready but you have holes in your game that you need to fix whether it takes one year or two years. Otherwise there is a chance you won’t get the big time money of a second contract in the NBA.

Thomas Noie

4:43

Not competitive at all, which is why Notre Dame's core believed it could get to a Final Four. And, don't knock them. Notre Dame could use Corhen and Post tomorrow

Wadelite

4:41

Armando Bacot is an all American level player. The problem is the defense makes guys like Craig Corhen or Quinten Post look like all Americans. I'm not saying going all purple face Brian Kelly and bench them for the entire game, but let sit for 3-4 minutes and try someone else. My gosh if Brey judges everything by players he trusts in practice and it doesn't translate to the games, how competive was it in practice? The answer seems evident.

Thomas Noie

4:41

Mike: Again, the later we get, the more voices of reasons that surface. It's the same game, but really, it's not. Not even close. Stop comparing what happens in the women's game to the men's game. Treat them separately and you get it.

Mike in PA

4:40

I don't understand why it's so hard to grasp why men's and women's basketball are different. Yes, the court, hoop, and most rules are the same. But they couldn't be in more different universes right now. There are NO one and dones in the women's game. Make everyone go to school for 3-4 years and go to class, it levels the playing field. A school like Notre Dame CAN be the blue blood, and kinda are. The same rules don't apply to the men's game. It isn't complicated!

Thomas Noie

4:39

I still like you, though! Even though you guys need a serious sit-down and explanation of Mike Brey squeezing a whole lot out of a whole less. Maybe one day, we'll do the chat in person. Even Ray can attend!

The Jet from Evansville

4:39

I’m in between you and Ray from SC but closer to Ray. I’m his 26th.

Thomas Noie

4:39

Rick: THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU! See....it's not that hard. Too many people seem to think that a five-star prospect will see a Notre Dame coach at his game and think, Oh, yeah, I'm going there. It's the exact opposite. Notre Dame? Why would I go to Notre Dame? Kentucky wants me. Duke wants me. And where is Notre Dame, anyway? A Notre Dame men's basketball recruit chooses Notre Dame for the overall experience. That includes academics and life after basketball. Blake Wesley and his one semester of classwork? That's a once-in-a-lifetime situation. Might not see it again.

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