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Thomas Noie

Aaaaannd....we passed the four-hour mark. Solid effort all the way around. That will do it for today. We'll be back sometime in December to talk more hoops and, hopefully, actually be talking games at that point. Take care and stay healthy!

2:10

Not even an option. Nor should he be.

Walter from Indy

2:09

side note, it’s been covered before...people may WANT wojo but he’s never coming lol. You’re not leaving Marquette for ND

Thomas Noie

2:09

Monty Williams, because he's been a head coach....I don't know if you can jump into this job and all it entails without knowing how to be a head coach. That said, I think Chris Quinn is a future star as a head coach.

Walter from Indy

2:08

If both were real options, would you take Chris Quinn or Monty as next head coach.

Dennis

1:53

Also mentioned 1985 north carolina, 1986 Arkansas Little-Rock, 1980 Missouri, 1976 Michigan, 2012 Xavier, 2001 Mississippi, and 2002 Duke. Bottom Line - Notre Dame has lost ample close heartbreaking games in the tournament.

Thomas Noie

1:53

Easy answer....Pat Garrity

Justin, Ft Wayne

1:53

Who would you guess would be the next Ring of Honor inductee may be?

Dennis

1:50

#2 1978 Duke, #3 2015 Kentucky, #4 1974 Michigan, 1977 North Carolina

#1 1981 BYU

1:42

I was discussing this topic with a couple of my Notre Dame friends and I'm curious for your opinion on the top #5 most heartbreaking ND loses in the NCAA tournament. Here's what we came up with:

Thomas Noie

1:42

Yep, but that doesn't seem like all that long ago, does it?

Wadelite

1:41

Having two capable ball handlers is huge. Gibbs was serviceable and Rex had great instincts, but they were not naturals handling the ball and could easily be pressured. Could Hubb and Ryan be the best ball handling tandem since Grant and DJ?

Thomas Noie

1:41

Dennis: Not soon enough. The NCAA doesn't look like it's in any hurry to rule on having all players eligible immediately to help roster management in case of COIVD-19 issues.

Dennis

1:40

Hi Tom thanks for the chat. When will we most likely hear if Wertz will be playing this year? Obviously this is huge for our success this year so hopefully we find out soon.

Thomas Noie

1:37

Mike: That's a home-and-home....honestly, I've never heard anyone say that Notre Dame just finalized a deal for a home-and-away for Team A, B or C.

Mike McFadden, Williamsport, PA

1:36

Hi again Tom, Just to square this question "away" and thank you, much appreciated, sorry. What is a new series called that is truly only a two game series with both games played at home? What would it be called? Home-and-home? Do you see it does not differentiate from the Ohio St series which is really a home-and-away but called a home--and-home. Do you see what I mean here Tom?

Thomas Noie

1:36

Justin: Absolutely. Cormac Ryan will be the second handler, and not Dane Goodwin. Not necessarily to run a play for Hubb, because he's shown he can get his shot - his perimeter shot. I'd like to see him get to the rim more and pressure the defense that way, then either finish or kick it to an open look. That's when this offense is at its efficient best.

Justin, Ft Wayne

1:35

Do you see Cormac ever bringing the ball up and maybe them running a play for Hubb. Kinda would think that’s something they would do when they need a spark.

Thomas Noie

1:35

When Geben really should've been the most valuable player on that team. Can't convince me otherwise. He was a revelation that year.

Wadelite

1:34

I want to be optimistic on Durham. He certainly has a more promising track record than Geben had before his final season.

Thomas Noie

1:31

Jake: They won't, because nobody really saw what he might offer. He could be good in a few years when he grows into a college body That was one of the drawbacks of not having them on campus this summer. You couldn't watch them play and picture how they fit. I have no idea what Matt Zona will do or what Tony Sanders will do. It's like everything this season - one great big, massive unknown.

Jake

1:29

How much will notre dame miss what Elijah Taylor might’ve brought to the table this season?

Thomas Noie

1:25

Chat participation just sort of fizzled as of 1 p.m...note to self: always check the Masters TV schedule before scheduling a chat....lol

1:16

Joe: Agree. Nothing will be run through Juwan Durham, nor should it. But I think any legit ACC front-line guy can tumble out of bed into at least 10 points, be it an occasional post-up or rim run or lob or the baseline jumper he so prefers. Brey covets his shooters, true, but he also has a soft spot for transfers and allowing them to max it out. I'd be more apt to say Durham can increase his point total by three than his rebound total by three.

joe from the south side

1:14

Tom: Mooney was a "write it down" 15 -16 a night. Especially with his nose for the boards. JD does not have his offensive skill set or rebounding instinct. Most importantly, however, this is a perimeter offense. I am not sold the 5 spot will be much more than flush a few, hit the boards, and don't drag defenders to the shooters. Nothing against JD, I just think Brey covets his shooters and has pretty much said he just hopes to outscore teams in order to win. That being the case, I think it's a bombs away offense rather than toss it into the paint and let JD work.

Thomas Noie

1:05

Joe: One might argue that the reason he hasn't a true force on the boards was that a certain No. 33 monopolized all of them last season. They usually like to establish Durham early, so he has a quick chance to do work. Then flush a few lobs and a few free throws. He averaged 7.8 points last season alongside Mooney, whose 16.2 points are now gone. Durham believes he should get a bigger bite of the scoring apple. Now's the chance.

joe from the south side

1:03

Tom and Wade: Not sure you can get 5 double digit scorers. Brey won't run the OFF thru JD enough. He can't shoot all that well, so his 10 points would have to be essentially on the OFF rebound end. Since he hasn't been a true force on the boards to this point and the quality of opposition is strong, I think he is more 7-8 points per game. Hopefully 7-8 rebounds as well.

Thomas Noie

12:51

He's way before my time, my man!

Wadelite

12:51

As far as all time great Dayton players, can't forget Hank Finkel. However he is often mixed up with Einhorn.

Thomas Noie

12:51

John Mooney is playing professionally in Australia. Rex Pflueger is playing professionally in England with the same team that Scott Martin played on. All indications are that T.J. Gibbs is waiting out options closer to home, whatever that may mean.

12:50

Jim: Totally agree, but the biggest variable (unknown) remains the season itself. I mentioned earlier that those inside the program are hoping to get 15 games in. Maybe even 20. But how in the world will you and can you evaluate tournament resumes given the way this season might unfold? Notre Dame scheduled as if it will be an incomplete season. If it's not, how do you evaluate that? You can't.

Jim Tal, Valley Center, CA.

12:48

Tom, to my mind there are just too many variables that will prevent the Irish from having a solid enough season to make the NCAA tourney. I mean Durham is going to have to take a huge step up, Laszewski must elevate to go-to status, Ryan needs to be the second coming of Ben H., Zona has got to be a force off the bench and Hubb must become the man. It will be remarkable if all those things happen to fall into place. Your thoughts, please. Also, could you give an update on what's going on with Mooney, Gibbs and Pflueger as it relates to playing at the next level. Thanks much and keep up the good work.

Thomas Noie

12:48

Wade: It absolutely could - COULD - have five double-digit scorers. Really, it should. Hubb and Goodwin were DF guys last year. It would be the natural progression for Durham and Laszewski. Ryan only unknown. How big of a jump does he make? Think B-Hans his junior year of Ryan. And hold on to your hat, but totally agree with the leading scorer question. It CANNOT and SHOULD NOT be Prentiss Hubb. He's not the probing, attacking, finishing guard as a Jerian Grant or a Demetrius Jackson. It has to be Goodwin or Laszewski or Ryan. Not Hubb. He has to run the team, take care of the ball and shoot a high percentage. He'll get his chances, and have his chances, but be a point guard first and second. He's going to score. Just not more than anyone else.

Wadelite

12:45

Could this starting line up have 5 double figure scorers. IIRC that happened in 14-15. Does Cormac average what Ben Hansbrough did his junior season and is Ben the best case comparison to Cormac? For ND to have a very good season who needs to be the leading scorer?. IMO Hubb is with zero doubt, the wrong answer.

Thomas Noie

12:42

Mike: It's really the same thing. A home-and-home means, one game at one team's home, the other game at the other team's home. So Notre Dame hoops last season just wrapped a two-year home-and-home agreement with UCLA. They played at Pauley in 2018-19, then at Purcell in 2019-20. And, for the record, just to confuse you even more, the Howard game was a two-for-one (two home games for Notre Dame, one of which was played last year) and one game at Howard. Guess you could say it was a home-and-home-and-home. Or home-and-away-and-home. Hope that helps. And don't be a stranger around these parts!

Mike McFadden, Williamsport, PA

12:40

Hi Tom. First timer coming on heels of first timer with Eric. Please once and for all explain something to me. It is both a b-ball and f-ball question. Twice in the last few days I read this. The media has ND f-ball playing a home-and-home with Ohio St. even though Ohio St first game ia AWAY. You have us playing Howard U in a home-and-home which again, the first game is at Howard. Other media have us at OSU as home-and-away. What is the difference between a home-and-home and home-and-wawy (oe away-and-home) ??? Thanks dude. And I really enjoyed your current playing days remarks. :)

Thomas Noie

12:31

A whole bunch. Maybe not start that way....or maybe yeah, start that way and finish that way. Forget all this two bigs stuff. Open the floor and open it all up.

Dan - Chicago

12:30

Do you envision an often used Wertz, Goodwin, Hubb, Ryan, & Lazewski lineup next year?

Thomas Noie

12:30

Joe: Don't forget my man Negele Knight. You think Ben Hansbrough drove this team to 27-7 in 2010-11 was something? Knight did it my senior year at Dayton, which won the old Midwestern Collegiate Conference tournament championship (take that, Tyrone Hill and Pete Gillen!) and should've beaten Arkansas in the second round in Austin, Texas. Ahhhh....memories

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