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Kiley McDaniel Holiday Chat - 12/26/18
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AvatarKiley McDaniel
12:25
Sorry for the delay, family was just packing up and leaving so had to see them off. First Christmas in the new house is now completed and it's still standing. Now to finish up some NL East lists, finalize the draft update, make plans for NYE and chat with you people
12:27
I think the lists will go Phillies then Mets then it looks like we're headed to the AL East.
Seth
12:27
Andrew Vaughn going to be the first strictly 1b to go in the top 5 in a long time?
Santa's Marginal
12:29
Right now- Witt Jr or Abrams?
AvatarKiley McDaniel
12:29
Yep, that's how it looks right now re: Vaughn. Again, here's the current draft board (https://www.fangraphs.com/prospects/the-board/2019-mlb-draft?type=0&te...) and the update will just be sliding 10-12 names around and expanding the end of it, mostly moving guys around in the middle of the list.  Vaughn is in the 50 FV tier behind the clear #1 Rutschman and that 2 thru 12 could be in a lot of orders. Since Vaughn is a track record college hitter, he's probably in the top half of that tier, but it's still super early, so guys will move with performance in season.
12:30
And on Abrams/Witt, its probably about 50/50 in the industry right now and they're both in that tier. I think we'll basically have them back-to-back in the update, so it's more deferring the decision until we get more info.
GPT
12:30
Have you heard anything about changes afoot in the Giants organization pertaining to the minor league system, under Zaidi?
AvatarKiley McDaniel
12:31
Have not, but imagine there will be some updates there now that the scouting side got some new blood in JP Ricciardi and Michael Holmes.
Purple Mays Haze
12:31
What kind of FV would you put on Tyler O'Neill? (I guess he's not eligible anymore..?)
AvatarKiley McDaniel
12:31
He was a high 50 FV when he graduated, which is still accurate
Amateur Scouting
12:31
What does a coordinator of amateur scouting do on a daily basis?
AvatarKiley McDaniel
12:32
Making pref lists and prioritizing coverage, assigning games to scouts, staying on top of the admin work and working with the analytics dept along with scouting to allocate time/resources the best way. Often is multiple daily calls with the scouting director, managing information flow and scout travel, budgets, workouts, etc.
Robert
12:32
How are Braves fans supposed to reconcile $410M+ revenue last year with only an estimated ~$130M payroll? That is an embarrassing low ratio in my opinion.
AvatarKiley McDaniel
12:34
This applies to any team, we just have Braves financials since they are a publicly traded stock right now. First, there's a $50 million one-time MLBAM outlay from that investment taking off. Secondly, one way to handle payroll is for it to be mostly static while revenues will jump all over the place depending on if they team is competitive late in the season or if your stadium is new.
12:35
So the $50M is a weird, one-time deal and the new stadium mixed with a playoff run and the first in awhile means this is about as good as you'll do revenue wise...but if they miss the playoffs and revenue goes way down, you don't want them dropping payroll that amount...so this is one way to keep things sustainable and stable.
12:36
You could argue it should bounce around more based on competitive/non competitive cycles, which is what TB does and it sounds like what SEA is doing. The idea is to slash payroll in down years so that you'll have a higher ceiling in good years. That's another way to do it and stretch your ceiling a bit higher
Ozzie Ozzie Albies Free
12:36
If the Phils don’t get Manny or Bryce, and the fail to land Arrenado, do you think their farm is remotely good enough to make them contenders during 2020-2023?
AvatarKiley McDaniel
12:37
And we've reached our pessimistic fan question of the day. No, the farm isn't currently good enough to just keep everything internal and make a contender. But the reason people think the Phillies will be much better is they have the money to sign one or two of these types...so they will. Factor one or even two 4-5 WAR players into what your farm has and things get a lot easier to imagine being playoff caliber.
IsIt2015Yet?!
12:38
Any word on what Int'l players teams like the Pirates and Rangers could be targeting with these trades for bonus pool $ now that everyone "known" has already signed?
AvatarKiley McDaniel
12:39
We asked around to probably close to 10 international scouts after the Profar trade and they all said there isn't a premium guy out there, or at least a consensus one. The theory is that TEX wanted to sign a couple $200-300K type players and that price point is low enough that 1) not every team will know about those players since they're out of money and not shopping as hard and 2) one team could say the players are worth $50K and it wouldn't be weird for another to say they're worth $250K
TKDC
12:39
How many of 30 GMs do you think went all day yesterday without doing any work?
AvatarKiley McDaniel
12:40
There's a decent chance it was 0, but I'll say 2 or 3.
Guest
12:40
If I see a writeup that projects a position switch, should I assume the grades apply to the current position, or the projected ones.  I mean, I tend to assume that very broadly speaking an arm/glove that's a 45 at CF or SS would
AvatarKiley McDaniel
12:40
Whatever position is listed in the header or on THE BOARD is the one we're projected the tool grades for
Jeter
12:40
The NL East is almost a fully functioning division. What's the path forward for the Marlins putting a MLB worthy team on the field?
AvatarKiley McDaniel
12:41
They're still in asset collection mode and the core isn't there currently to where you're ready to move into the "supplement the core" mode. This could happen by multiple prospects/young MLB players getting much better, but they probably need another year or so of high picks/July 2/JTR Trade, etc. to get the core pieces in place.
Red
12:41
What are your thoughts on the Phillies hire of Jason Ochart out of Driveline? Also, is MLB clubhouse culture changing, and if so, to what degree? i.e. does having no professional playing experience hurt a coach's chances of getting through to players, or are players more willing to buy in today than they may have been in past eras?
Doug
12:41
Please talk about Jason Ochart joining the Phillies. I beg you.
AvatarKiley McDaniel
12:43
Ochart is a smart dude, have talked to him a few times and I'm a fan. There aren't an abundance of hitting coaches out there that are on top of the various tech and tools available to them. Some of the ones that are just philosophically open to this stuff have been double and triple promoted in the last few years because there's so much less progressive, scientific testing of though on the hitting side vs. pitching.
I get the impression that if a coach is open minded and humble and brings results, the players don't care what his background is. If a guy didn't play, it matter more if he comes in and acts like he has all the answers and doesn't deliver results
Owen
12:44
Hi Kiley - When colleges have Trackman, how much data do they actually share with people like you or MLB clubs who are interested in maybe drafting their guys? All the info? Some of the info? Only the stuff they want to share? Also does having that in your stadium have any effect on how many scouts come through in a year?
AvatarKiley McDaniel
12:44
The MLB teams get all the data from games at the colleges as part of their deal with TrackMan and the colleges get a lower price than the MLB teams do for minor league TrackMan b/c the colleges are letting TrackMan sell it to teams.
12:45
We get some from the stadium directly, some schools like Ole Miss and LSU post a lot of it on analytics twitter accounts and use it for recruiting, etc. but non-teams cannot buy that full data set.
Asst GM
12:45
What do most Asst Gm’s make? It seems like they are one of few FO employees that get paid what they are worth.
AvatarKiley McDaniel
12:48
Generally AGMs and up are paid fairly for what they contribute, some directors, then most of the spots below that take pay cuts from what they should make or could make doing similar things in the private sector. Generally, AGMs make $150K to $500K depending on tenure and if a team has one AGM or 3-4. I'm sure some of the GM-in-waiting types are making above that, but that role has mostly become "GM underneath a president" and GMs generally start at $1M.
Agent vs FO
12:51
What are main differences in day to day life between agents and FO employees?
AvatarKiley McDaniel
12:52
Lots of front office questions today but I'm here for it. Agents generally work remotely and it's lots of phone calls and babysitting and traveling when you're lower level, I guess still lots of phone calls and traveling but a little less babysitting when you're higher level.
12:53
FO also is lots of phone calls and traveling, too. I guess it's more process/information/execution whereas agent-ing is more relationships and salesmanship and services
Red
12:53
Happy Boxing Day, Kiley! If you had your druthers, would you shorten the draft? Is there much practical difference between a 50 round draft much less popular than the NFL or NBA drafts, and, say, a 20 round draft followed by a bunch of senior sign UDFAs to fill out low minors rosters?
AvatarKiley McDaniel
12:54
I'd say 20-25 is all you really need and some team do it in a different order in terms of their $125K or over-slot pool signings after the 10th, but it would be streamlined a bit if all those signings were condensed into fewer rounds and all the filler types were later. It's also a way for clubs with good processes to get better players, since you'd just be recruiting all those undrafted FA's with similar money.
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